Questions about Rigging and Sails

 

Rod Rigging (2007)

Question: Our Swan 51 is at Morris Yachts for a mini refit this winter and my plan, in addition to everything else, is to start to replace some of the existing rod rigging. It turns out that the rod is 24 years old. Navtec says it should be replaced every 11 years or 30,000 miles. Based on this information it gives me some concern as we sail the boat between Nova Scotia and the Caribbean on a semi regular basis. I would be interested in your comments on how you manage the rod rigging situation on Morgan's Cloud.


Answer: It sounds to me like it would be a good idea to replace it all. We replaced all our rod rigging in England after a cold head broke after 100,000 miles and 15 years of use. We had had it all dye tested just a year before, so that is no real protection. Luckily it did not cost us the mast, but it could have. Warren Brown (of War Baby) lost a cold head and the mast south of New Zealand, and although I don’t know how old the rod was, or how many miles, I think it was up around 100,000.

 

Fore Triangle Sail Area (2006)

Question: What is your thinking on how sail area should be positioned between the fore triangle and mainsail on short handed cruising boats?

 

Answer: I think there are two ways to go: The first is to have a big mainsail and a small fore triangle so that the jibs are small, and to be a sloop. The second is to have a bigger fore triangle and be a true cutter (one that carries the staysail all the time with a jib topsail (Yankee)). I think that the first is better for inshore sailing since the boat is easily tacked but the second is better for offshore since, particularly if both staysail and jib topsail are on roller furlers, it gives more flexibility.

Morgan's Cloud is a cutter with a large fore triangle. Her relatively tall mast and large sail plan allow her to sail well in as little as 6 to 8 knots of apparent wind and we can go all the way to heaved-to in gale force winds without making any sail changes using our two foresails on roller furlers and 3 deep reefs in the main. The downside is that short tacking inshore with two sets of sheets to handle is hard work for two people.

The jib topsail (Yankee) is only 110% of the fore triangle and high cut. This has several advantages:

  1. When the sail is reefed you do not have to move the sheet lead as you would with a low cut sail.

  2. Good visibility under the sail.

  3. With the staysail rolled in the jib top makes a great high cut blast reacher with no danger of scooping up a sea into the foot.

  4. With the staysail rolled out the combined area is only 10% less than a 150% overlapping #1 genoa, a sail that, in my opinion, has no business on any boat at sea—they are just plain dangerous. One thing about going to windward effectively with the cutter rig is that you must have the sheet angles on both foresails perfect and the rig tuned right; however, once you get things correct the rig is very fast, particularly offshore in swell. (This is the rig we won our class with twice in the Newport to Bermuda race.)

The big draw backs with the cutter rig is having to handle running back stays and having to tack the jib topsail in front of the staysail stay. The runners are a pain inshore, but on Morgan's Cloud this is not as bad as it might be, because the anchor points on the hull are far enough forward so that when going to windward we can leave both back stays on; however, because of the reduced angle they have to be really tight. We make this work with 2:1 runner tails and powerful dedicated two speed winches for the runners. Of course the anchor points must be suitably massive to take the additional load. (Update, 2007: With our new carbon fibre mast, we no longer have to use the runners except in big seas.)

Once offshore, running backs are really not much more of a problem than being a sloop. Particularly since I believe that any offshore boat should have an internal forestay and runners to stabilize the rig in big seas and to carry a storm staysail.
 

Getting the jib top through the fore triangle when tacking is not as bad as it sounds because the overlap is relatively modest and the high cut foot helps too.

 

How Much Sail Area (2006)

Question: How much sail area do you think an offshore boat should have for a given weight?
 

Answer: Morgan's Cloud has a comparatively high sail area displacement ratio for her type, of 16.5. This combined with good sails (spectra/mylar radial cut) and her very easily driven hull shape means that we can sail in quite light airs without resorting to substantially overlapping sails. I think that cruising boats should have as tall a mast as possible, within reason, without compromising stability. High aspect ratio foresails are easier to handle and roller reef better. At sea, good sail area makes for faster passages, and, as you know, the shorter the time you are at sea, the less chance of severe weather.

 

Reefing System Friction (2006)

Question: I have a Hunter 40.5 with a single line reefing system which has more friction in it than a shooting star. What can I do to decrease the friction?


Answer: Yes, single line systems, particularly those that lead back to the cockpit, have a lot of blocks and turns and therefore a lot of friction. They only work well with the very best gear. All blocks should be adequately sized and have roller bearings. We are seeing a lot of undersized and cheap blocks on production boats. On Morgan’s Cloud we prefer to keep things simple and low friction by reefing at the mast and using a simple horn to capture the tack.

 

Reefing System Tension (2006)

Question: With your slab reefing system, do all your clew reefing lines enter the boom at the aft end and, if so, how do you get proper tension along the leech and foot, particularly on the last reef?
 

Answer: In our case, the clew lines enter the boom through sheave boxes at the correct position in relation to the clew, so no problem. However, there is a simple answer to your problem of maintaining the correct angle when all lines exit at the boom end as long as you don’t mind changing your single line reefing system: The key is where on the boom you dead end the line after it runs through the clew reefing cringle. The easiest way to get this right is to tie the line around the boom with a timber hitch and then slide it back and forth until you get the correct position. Once you are sure you have it correct you can add a rounded pad eye to the boom at that position so that the timber hitch won’t slide around. It’s important to understand that the pennant still passes around the boom with a timber hitch and the pad eye only acts to stop fore and aft movement. The only time this won’t work is if your mainsail foot has a bolt rope into a track, but this is a poor way to do things anyway. If your main is set up this way I suggest you get your sailmaker to add slug slides to the foot. You don’t need a lot of slugs since the strain is all taken by the clew; one every 30” is plenty.
 

Dead End Reefing System (2006)

Question: With your slab reefing system, does the last reef line not crush the bunt of sail accumulated from the previous reefs?
 

Answer: With the above dead end system you can get the sail to fall on the side away from the dead end so there is little crushing of the cloth, although it does happen a bit, which is unavoidable. However, we have a mainsail with 30,000+ miles on it, much of it reefed, with few problems in this area. The key is to have your sailmaker run at least part of the reefing patches all the way up the leech from the clew to above the top reef. This reinforces the leech so that a bit of crushing or chafe are not big problems.
 

Slab Reefing and Lazy Jacks (2006)

Question: Is slab-reefing (jiffy reefing) and lazy-jacks genuinely viable for a 667sqft sail, given we will be only two sailing our boat most of the time?
 

Answer: Sure, perfectly viable: We have sailed over 80,000 miles with such a system on a mainsail that is only a little smaller than the one on the boat you are considering, but the system must be well thought out using top quality gear and powerful two speed winches. Even then, it does take a fair amount of grunt to reef. I am 6' 2", about 190lb and fairly fit; a lighter/smaller person could have problems.

 

Our main is 620sqft and has full battens. We fitted a Frederickson luff track system (see our Stuff that works page for more information) some years ago that makes reefing much easier, particularly off the wind.
 

In-Boom Reefing (2006)

Question: Would you, if you had the chance to refit free of cost considerations, stay with your slab-reefing system, or would you yourself seriously consider in-boom reefing? If so, why?
 

Answer: We looked at Leisurefurl some years ago. The system looks attractive but is a 25 to 30K refit for Morgan's Cloud to do it right, way beyond what it was worth to us. If it were free we would look at it very seriously since it would allow us to reef more easily and from the cockpit. The other big attraction would be getting rid of the chore of taking the sail cover on and off; non-trivial on a boat of Morgan's Cloud's size, particularly with lazy jacks.

 

Our big concern with Leisurefurl is whether it will truly let you reef going downwind with the boom out. We would not consider any system that requires us to round up to reef: You could get wet doing that (!) and, anyway, it's not safe in heavy weather. Even when going to weather, if it is rough, we will quite often bear off to reef.

 

Also, slab reefing is simple and relatively easy to fix. Most of the "labor saving systems" are anything but. However, people used to say that about roller furling headsails.
 

Securing the Tack (2006)

Question: How do you secure the tack of the mainsail on Morgan's Cloud—do you have the conventional horns, or do you have a two-line reefing system?
 

Answer: The tack is secured by dropping a floating ring on a short webbing pennant that passes through the luff reefing cringle over a horn. The clew is pulled down using a double-ended system with a two speed winch on either side of the boom, so we can always reef standing to windward.
 

Dealing With the Bunt (2006)

Question: How do you deal with all of the excess sail when you bring the sail down to the third reef, under real hard-wind conditions?
 

Answer: If offshore in heavy weather, we tie the bunt in with sail ties through reef points—hard work on a dark and stormy night. We also rig a safety strop through the leech cringle. Otherwise when reefed the bunt just lies in the lazy jacks.

 

Single-Line Reefing (2006)

Question: Would you contemplate a single-line reefing system on a 667sqft sail?
 

Answer: We really don't know enough about them. I would worry about friction, but I heard some years ago that the Volvo boats were using such a system. If that is true then someone has got the bugs out for big rigs. I would talk to a good rigger and use only the best hardware.

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