Staying In Charge—Part II, Wind Generators

Wind – 24 hour power

In recent years, with more people going ‘off-grid’ in yachts, RV’s and remote cabins, micro wind generation has come a long way, largely through the adoption of new materials and technologies such as neodymium permanent magnets. Some of the latest generation of wind turbines can produce really acceptable amounts of output around the clock in the right circumstances. But there are still limitations:

  • A wind generator needs reliable, clean wind to function properly – a rare commodity in sheltered harbours or anchorages, or areas where the wind drops light at night.
  • At sea, while they work well upwind, downwind they are weak.
  • Most of the more powerful units don’t start producing appreciable amounts of output until average wind speeds exceed (at least) ten knots.
  • Some of them are noisy and vibrate  – although this is, in general, an area that has seen great improvement.
  • Many of the more potent units are heavy, requiring substantial brackets and leaving extra weight and windage where it’s least wanted – high above deck level.

What Are They Like to Live With?

Anyone thinking of installing a wind generator should assess:

  • How much output can it produce?  If the model you’re looking at doesn’t produce substantial power in ideal conditions, is it worth having, either in terms of cost or nuisance value?
  • How quiet and vibration free is it? If it isn’t, you’ll be turning it off (and everyone else near you) all of the time.
  • How heavy is it relative to the size of your boat? The weight and windage of a really powerful unit might materially affect stability on a modest sized boat. Most yachts aren’t designed (like Pèlerin or the Adventure 40) with an arch and generator factored into their stability calculations.
  • How safe is it, and can it be left unattended? Any generator should have not just an internal limiter to slow it down in high winds, but also a remote off switch.
  • How reliable is it? Many models are virtually impossible to service or repair yourself.

Our Experience

When we were planning Pèlerin, we were determined that if we were going to have a wind generator, it would have to meet all of the above requirements. We eventually went for the Superwind, a three bladed turbine, with a 350W output, external regulator and on/off switch.

Apart from being slightly noisy with the original blades, it has performed faultlessly for nearly five years.

It delivers really healthy amounts of power above ten knots of wind quietly and without vibration, and is without doubt one of the best pieces of kit we have bought.

At 11.5kg it requires a hefty mounting bracket, and at around US$3000 (generator, charge controller and off switch), it’s not a cheap unit, but it is very well engineered and if our experience is anything to go by, the cost spread over time is more than acceptable.

What Else Should Be Considered?

Charge Regulation

For any unit capable of delivering substantial amounts of amps, there should be some form of charge regulator and dump resistor for handling surplus output. On most units these are external and an additional cost, as may be an off switch. Some units such as the Kiss (300W) and the Air Breeze (200W) use internal regulation, saving cost and simplifying installation.

Vibration Damping

In order to dampen the vibration generated by some models that can be transmitted into the boat, additional means may be needed, commonly by means of mounting the base of the tube on a rubber gasket or block.

Many manufacturers specify stock tube for the mounting pole, which makes installation easier, but every aspect of the mounting bracket and its installation will need to be carefully designed in order to cope with the considerable loads generated in a seaway, especially for the heavier, more powerful units like the D400 (15kg).

All of the above will need to be taken into account when you price up your chosen unit.

Is It Worth Installing A Wind Generator?

Given that the model you choose meets the above criteria, if you spend time at sea or at anchor in areas where there are higher than average wind speeds, then a wind generator will be a real advantage.

The critical factor is estimating what you can expect in terms of amps per day. Peak outputs may sound impressive, but only tell part of the story. What really matters is what the unit can deliver in a wide range of conditions. Practical Sailor carried out a really useful trial (subscription required) a few years ago that should be required reading for anyone considering fitting a wind generator. Whilst we’ve seen days when our our Superwind has generated over 100 Ah, equally there have been many days when we’ve seen far less. Which is why, in my view, a wind generator should be best considered as part of an integrated supplementary power installation.

What Might Work Well On The Adventure 40?

While the Adventure 40 will not come standard with a wind generator, she will be set up with an arch and wiring conduits to make the installation of one easy. So, if your budget can run to it, and the weight is acceptable within the stability calculations, then the Superwind 350 would be a good choice.

If weight and budget are a constraint, then the Air Breeze has a lot to recommend it. Its predecessor, the Air X (400W) probably put more people off installing a wind generator than any other single thing due to the truly awful racket it made when operating, but the manufacturers have really got on top of that.  By reducing the rotor speed and modifying the blades, the new model is now (at least) tolerably quiet. Ultimate power output has been reduced as a result, although in tests it has still performed very well indeed. Light (5.9kg) and relatively inexpensive (US$1195 for the basic unit) and with internal regulation and an off switch, it would fit nicely on the arch of the Adventure 40.

Comments

Have you got experience of any of the above models? Let us know with a comment.

Further Reading

 

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  • Paul Mills October 21, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Hi Colin,

    We have a D400 on Sakari and are very pleased with it, finding it starts producing some power at rather low speeds – when many other boast wind generaters are stationary, and then performing strongly after 10 knots. Compared to many it is very quiet, particularly when running at a constant dpeed with wind below 20 knots. I would echo the weight issue, lifting it up onto its pole above our arch was just doable without a ‘sky hook’. It can vibrate a little and I have traced this to a slightly worn mounting bush at the top of the pole, and the screw that holds it down onto the same.

    We do not have an off switch and so have a piece of cord to grab to feather the blades and then loop around to stop it restarting….. I call this process ‘taming the beast’ and when it is turning at full chat I dread to think what it would do to my arm if I lost focus at the crucial moment.

    My favourite thing about a generater this size is that when we are sailing anything but downwind it makes enogh electrickery to run all the instruments and the autopilot – perfect.

    Best wishes

    Paul

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    • Colin Speedie October 22, 2012 at 4:47 am

      Hi Paul

      Sounds like a good report for the D400,

      But I’d really want to fit a stop switch. Having to clamber up to grab the tail or cord isn’t easy when conditions demand it. And as I’ve got a scar on my shoulder from the consequences of contact with the blades from doing just that, I should know!

      Best wishes

      Colin

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      • paul mills October 22, 2012 at 7:01 am

        indeed it can be a bit edgey, I have a line from the fin that makes a loop round the bottom of the post – much easier to grab….

        you can get a stop switch and the manufactures warn that it should only be used to then tie up as in strong winds the blades can still turn and create damaging charge within the generater itself.

        Overall the d400 is definitely something I would buy again

        Paul

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    • Nicolas October 23, 2012 at 11:37 am

      Hi Paul
      When I tie off my Aerogen I grab the tail & turn it at least 90 degrees; can do 180 degrees. This uses the wind to stop the spinning. Easy.

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  • Geir Ove October 21, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    There is Silentwind,
    http://tbbecker.de/wgenn/

    speck.

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    • Colin Speedie October 22, 2012 at 4:50 am

      Hi Geir

      This is a new unit to me, but the output (400W) and the weight (6.8kg) look attractive.

      Have you, or anyone else out there got one, to let us know what your opinion is?

      Best wishes

      Colin

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      • Matt Boney December 16, 2012 at 1:52 pm

        We have the DuoGen which has the same regulator and output but of course also folds down into the water as a towing generator. Because the shaft can be dropped down to change the blades it is easy and safe to tie off. It needs a bit of wind to get it going but twice we have had 40 amps output and blown the 35 amp fuse. The manufacturers say put in a 40 amp one. They also say DON’T use a regulator if you are living aboard, just tie it off when you leave the boat. Solar and Wind regulators can and do interfere with each other because the wind genny output is not constant so can turn its own regulator on and off when it is not running fast because it “sees” the battery voltage as being high from the solar regulator. Two of my colleagues have had this problem and disconnected their wind genny regulator. Most of the time you batteries need all the help they can get to reach 100%, so don’t disconnect your potentially best source of charging.

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      • Ismo Falck April 1, 2013 at 1:18 pm

        Hi,
        I have tested a Silentwind wind generator. I have used it about a year now. I am very pleased to it. It generates electricity well. Last summer I sailed about 5 weeks without any other source of electricity except motoring in and out from harvour. Blades are amazingly thin and sharp. Work quality is excellent. This unit wont disturb anybody near my boat. In higher winds there is some resonance inside the back cabin. I have to look the vibration dampening more closely. It is nice that in the same regulator I can put solar panels too (when I buy those). In regulator there is wery informative display, where I can read how much unit creates power or has created during longer period. It slows down when batteries are full or if it starts generate too much electricity to batteries. There is also stop button.
        So far it looks very promising to me.

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  • Simon Fraser October 21, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    Hi Colin,
    We have a three bladed earlier version of the Air turbine on China Moon, and it certainly can shriek when the wind gets up! I believe that while the peak power output of some generators may be high, that if they don’t start until the wind gets to say 10 knots they are unlikely to produce as much power over the months as a nominally less powerful generator which spends more time generating, at lower wind speeds.
    One of the theoretical and practical points about three bladed turbines is that they require all three blades to be present for balance and therefore for rotation, so if one blade fails (or disintegrates at great speed) you have nothing.
    The six bladed turbines can be balanced with 6, 4, 3 or maybe even 2 blades, so you have a few opportunities to salvage something by repositioning the remaining blades, which seems like a very robust situation for the Adventure Cruiser.
    Cheers,
    Simon

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    • Colin Speedie October 22, 2012 at 5:00 am

      Hi Simon

      Those Air X units are so noisy – we have had one near us (100m) at times this year, and when it blows the racket it makes is appalling.

      I take your point about some of the lower powered units that start to deliver power at low wind speeds. But I think that in practice the fact that they still don’t deliver appreciable amounts of power once the wind speed climbs means that they still underperform against one of the high output units. The Practical Sailor trial demonstrated this well, I thought.

      I do like the look of the new Rutland 914i, though.

      Good point re the blades – I hadn’t thought of the useful ability to continue without a damaged blade. We carry our old, original, set as spares, though, which explain that.

      Best wishes

      Colin

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  • C. Dan October 22, 2012 at 10:48 am

    This is great – keep it coming!

    One thing that would be helpful is to put each part of the system in context of the energy budget – please don’t assume that we already know this.

    Maybe a separate post with a couple energy budget scenarios would help?

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    • Colin Speedie October 22, 2012 at 12:29 pm

      Hi C. Dan

      There are so many variables, that it’s not easy – but I’ll do my best as I sum up at the end.

      Glad you like the posts so far – thanks for the kind words.

      Best wishes

      Colin

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  • Svein Lamark October 22, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    I have an Air x 400. I t was very noisy and gave little power at light winds. I have this summer changed the blades to the blue carbon type from Spreco. I got the blades directly on the factory in Portugal to a low price. The result is great, little or no sound from the mill and much more power at weak winds. After the installation of new blades I put the generator on with no shore power and left the sailboat for 5 weeks sailing another boat. When I came back the battery showed 14,2 volts. Almost too good.

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    • Colin Speedie October 22, 2012 at 6:00 pm

      Hi Svein

      Sounds like a good deal – I’m intrigued by the power increase in light winds, though – I wonder how they have managed that?

      But anything that makes an Air X quieter is worth having, even if it were to do nothing else!

      Best wishes

      Colin

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  • Matt Marsh October 26, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    Nice summary Colin, I think you hit all the main points well.

    While I’m impressed by the CFD work that has gone into the new near-silent blades, I must admit to being sorely disappointed by the engineering in some modern wind turbines. This is not new or complicated technology; there are plenty of mid-1920s Jacobs units still in use. Yet we still see some flaws in modern units that were solved 90 years ago- runaway speed in a storm, for example, used to be prevented by self-feathering blades on a centrifugal governor. The Superwind still does this, but some others rely purely on the electronics – and, eventually, on the owner wrapping a lasso around the thing.

    Regarding vibration: A stiffer mounting structure will often go a long way towards preventing vibration problems, or at least making them mild enough that rubber bushings can take care of the rest. An unsupported 2″ pole is an open invitation to nasty resonances.

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    • Colin Speedie October 27, 2012 at 5:03 am

      Hi Matt

      It is indeed remarkable that at this stage we’re still the same old faults. Electric switches can fail, and its a lot to ask of them to stall a generator spinning at max revs in a storm. And stopping them manually and lashing them off can be plain dangerous in bad weather.

      In my experience poles can work OK if they are kept short and solidly based – but long poles where there is scope for the pole to move and create wear are a recipe for vibration – and you’ll be switching the unit off……
      Best wishes

      Colin

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  • Paddy Delaney October 31, 2012 at 11:22 am

    all are good units , I got so frustrated several ago because most genny’s were not set up for marine enviroments , I went and redesigned my own unit , if you or anyone has any questions regarding wind generators or desalinators please contact me

    the main problem with most generators is the bearing they used , they are not radial lip sealed type for high speeds , the next is the motors cant produce constant power as the windings have a lower copper content because they are machine wound , next is the internal lube used in most units have a low melting point so they produce more sound , next is most are not totally sealed units , then there is the blades , they must flex and even carbon composite blades need to be painted to cut down on resistence , and off course the ever present balance , the unit must be completely balance to have all weight centered dead center on top of the mounting bracket which should be powder coated , never look at a unit that doesnt include a controller …….open the controller and make sure it is 100% coated and sealed in at least 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch of resin , braking and supplied on/off switches are a given
    as a result and this is straight engineering most are not set up for the harsh marine enviroments …….again if anyone has any question about thier current unit [stopping vibration or reducing operating noise or just making it work more effectively ] just contact me

    tks Paddy
    http://www.botcwindsolar.blogspot.com

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